tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post1130797553064901063..comments2024-03-15T04:27:26.708-07:00Comments on An Affordable Wardrobe: Dangerously Close to the EdgeJoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17212956969066796818noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-13404839847169978492011-11-16T23:51:12.589-08:002011-11-16T23:51:12.589-08:00On to the other points.
Your citation of US hist...On to the other points. <br /><br />Your citation of US history is irrelevant, because unlike China, the US did not manipulate its own currency to unfairly compete with the US.<br /><br />In contrast, the Japanese case is relevant. Once upon a time, the Japanese dumped their products into the US (i.e., they charged less than what it cost to make the product). This served two purposes: the acquisition of market share and the destruction of American businesses in the same market. Case in point: televisions. Why is it that there are no domestic manufacturers of TVs in America, the land where the TV was invented? It's because the Japanese were willing to take long-term losses for longer-term gains.<br /><br />The Chinese seem to be playing a similar game, and with great success: since China's ascension into the WTO in 2001, more than <i><b>56,000</b></i> factories have closed in the US, which works out to <b>fifteen per day</b> (<a href="http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/nov/07/betty-sutton/betty-sutton-says-average-15-us-factories-close-ea/" rel="nofollow">source</a>).<br /><br />Not all of these closures can be ascribed to the Chinese, of course, but it is clear that most of them can. The problem is that "free" trade only works when both sides play by the same rules. China, quite rationally, is playing to win, regardless of the "rules." The loss of our manufacturing base is their gain, and they are actively pursing policies to that end.<br /><br />They seek to harm us for their own benefit.<br /><br />Isn't that more or less the textbook definition of an enemy?Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04323479662463149466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-90636064705077401792011-11-16T23:49:13.985-08:002011-11-16T23:49:13.985-08:00Chenlong,
You have fallen into the modern trap o...Chenlong, <br /><br />You have fallen into the modern trap of equating <i>disapproval</i> with <i>hatred</i>.<br /><br />This equation is almost always wrong. Furthermore, it is wholly inappropriate, because it delegitimizes disapproval. It says, "you can't possibly have a valid reason to disapprove, so it must be an irrational reason, therefore we can ignore you and your alleged argument."<br /><br />Perhaps you didn't understand because you're not a native speaker of English, but what I wrote--"not because I have anything against the Chinese"--means "I do not have something against the Chinese." It can be rephrased as "I don't hate the Chinese."Young Fogeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-30288944606413357402011-11-11T22:25:37.147-08:002011-11-11T22:25:37.147-08:00Truth is Chinese labor is no longer cheap, with th...Truth is Chinese labor is no longer cheap, with the newly passing labor law that mandates the minimal wages, lower end of the clothing business has been forced out of China and into Vietnam. If you get the chance to visit the facilities, you will be impressed. I am not sure if this sweater is worth 148$, but it wouldn't be much less. We are talking about a rapidly changing nation. What was true yesterday could be quickly changed.<br />ChenlongAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295528637730510191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-83566884595036455672011-11-11T05:50:37.509-08:002011-11-11T05:50:37.509-08:00It's not so much a matter of hating China as i...It's not so much a matter of hating China as it is paying $148 for it when they clearly made it in China for the cheap cost of labor. You have to question what it is you're really paying for.Giuseppehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582043853388196139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-17585088543583323432011-11-10T23:11:33.073-08:002011-11-10T23:11:33.073-08:00Another Chinese hater huh, well guess I need to us...Another Chinese hater huh, well guess I need to use this very country as an example. In the early 1900s eastern European Jews flooded into East Coast of US, without education and ability to speak English, a lot of them ended up in what we now call"sweatshop labor" and majority of it is clothing(J Press is part of the big flow but it is on high end of business). Also post World War 2 Japan employees used to work long hours and get under-payed. Now it is China, only according to our friend Fogey, it is because Chinese government is dictatorship and push its people to do it...<br />Really reminds of the time when US blames Japan-made cars and EU steel. I think this attitude is the reason America is in this big mess. <br />ChenlongAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16295528637730510191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-22919470287087827882011-11-10T20:34:45.604-08:002011-11-10T20:34:45.604-08:00Enzo,
I dislike products made in China not becaus...Enzo,<br /><br />I dislike products made in China not because I have anything against the Chinese per se, but because I am repulsed by what the Chinese government does both to its own people and to ours. Although now Communist in name only (CINO?), they are still brutal autocrats running a dictatorship. The Chinese, keeping their currency artificially low, and with the collusion of our own corrupt politicians and unethical businessmen, are the direct cause of the closure of tens of thousands of factories and the loss of nearly three <i>million</i> US jobs.<br /><br />I don't want to buy Chinese products because I don't want to support our enemies.Young Fogeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-47178979250236138022011-11-10T18:24:16.350-08:002011-11-10T18:24:16.350-08:00Point well taken, Enzo. Thank you for refuting me ...Point well taken, Enzo. Thank you for refuting me in a clear and adult manner.<br /><br />YWP,<br />True enough, that's why I let it go.<br /><br />Anon.,<br />I don't really think I plugged it. I guess you forgot to read the "words" part of this post.Giuseppehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582043853388196139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-53603404618628569562011-11-10T17:34:58.646-08:002011-11-10T17:34:58.646-08:00Re: Misfits
Yes.Re: Misfits<br /><br />Yes.Jho78https://www.blogger.com/profile/17672892971295502004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-11112584762380446252011-11-10T16:58:57.773-08:002011-11-10T16:58:57.773-08:00Keep plugging it. I'm sure they'll send yo...Keep plugging it. I'm sure they'll send you a free one soon enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-65983803544092832412011-11-10T16:35:30.986-08:002011-11-10T16:35:30.986-08:00The skull and bones thing will be embarrassingly d...The skull and bones thing will be embarrassingly dated in the next 3 or 4 years, I'm guessing. Like the show Moonlighting, it probably won't hold up too well over time.Yankee-Whisky-Papahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03700869447555261057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-38322220988322507722011-11-10T15:09:09.071-08:002011-11-10T15:09:09.071-08:00G - Its not made in a sweatshop, quite the contrar...G - Its not made in a sweatshop, quite the contrary actually. Having worked at Rugby as a designer for 2 years and having actually visited their manufacturing facilities in Hong Kong/China, I can tell you that the working conditions of far east RL factories are as good, if not better than many American facilities. This statement doesn't apply to all Asian factories but to be an "RL approved" vendor takes an insanely high level of compliance.<br /><br />I'm really getting tired of all this "because its made in China its crap" garbage. The truth is that the majority of the people that feel this way have never been to clothing factories - domestic or abroad - and haven't a clue of what they're talking about. The very idea that something is made well or not based on the geography of the factory amounts to nothing more than the same racism you dismissed in your early week's commentary of the young boys.Enzo AGChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16954814706002705880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-71086153457419204932011-11-10T13:55:06.227-08:002011-11-10T13:55:06.227-08:00I was once on the line about that very same cardig...I was once on the line about that very same cardigan. The fixation with skull and bones in our society usually stems from an inherent teenage rebelliousness, however I personally see it as a personal symbol representing memento mori, also as a nod to my ancestors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-60730386818265745852011-11-10T10:16:15.446-08:002011-11-10T10:16:15.446-08:00Point well taken, Maven.
Don't forget, I spe...Point well taken, Maven. <br /><br />Don't forget, I spent a long time in rock bands, hence my nostalgia for Ye Olde Skull & Bones.Giuseppehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582043853388196139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-47329803700166473012011-11-10T09:03:19.278-08:002011-11-10T09:03:19.278-08:00Live vicariously through your son.Live vicariously through your son.gentleman machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05485395378797559032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-36853903258438846762011-11-10T08:24:12.677-08:002011-11-10T08:24:12.677-08:00Well... I really hate that look. I know that skul...Well... I really hate that look. I know that skulls, etc. are all the rage, but I think that we all need to step back a bit and ask ourselves why they appeal in our society. I frankly want more Life not more Death. <br /><br />Sorry, I know that is not what you were looking for.<br /><br />Giuseppe, you and the others on here are much too good for that cr**!mavennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-84578747192071554492011-11-10T07:18:48.691-08:002011-11-10T07:18:48.691-08:00Wearing my suit on the T today with my nice brown ...Wearing my suit on the T today with my nice brown wide brim fedora, I felt a little too dressed up and thought to myself, as I was listening to the Misfits on my ipod, I thought, "I need more skulls in my attire." Perhaps it was being under the influence of The Misfits, perhaps it was the girl giving me eyes, or perhaps I just didn't feel badass enough. Either way, that skull cardigan still rules! Too bad it was made in a sweatshop.Jasonhttp://dapperedasshit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-70639045242176052482011-11-10T07:00:59.454-08:002011-11-10T07:00:59.454-08:00It was $88 when I first saw it too.
My kids love ...It was $88 when I first saw it too.<br /><br />My kids love pirate stuff... That would be me excuse. No worries though, I'm not going to buy it. But it is fun to pretend sometimes.Giuseppehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582043853388196139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-29006766875483988982011-11-10T06:42:44.549-08:002011-11-10T06:42:44.549-08:00Hmmm. Only on November 2.Hmmm. Only on November 2.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905201479928703850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-63565259943131154352011-11-10T06:28:44.295-08:002011-11-10T06:28:44.295-08:00I checked it out on Monday and it was $88. Still d...I checked it out on Monday and it was $88. Still didn't see a patch I liked.Patrick G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15726840676623819307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-47881313929644465322011-11-09T21:57:00.215-08:002011-11-09T21:57:00.215-08:00Please, don't encourage me.Please, don't encourage me.Giuseppehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582043853388196139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9081206974005845104.post-29311327310762366922011-11-09T21:34:44.018-08:002011-11-09T21:34:44.018-08:00Love the monogram.Love the monogram.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com